# Music Exists Before The Cosmos And after the cosmos. But that's too obvious. Remind that 1:2 = (Octave) 2:3 = (Perfect Fifth) 3:4 = (Perfect Fourth) &c. You don't just listen to the sounds. You listen to the numbers via the sounds. And numbers have existed since before the cosmos. Though it's true that you just listen to the sounds in genres like noise. There are things like timbre too. But that just means SOME parts of music don't exist before the cosmos. Not music itself. Similarily beauty exists before the cosmos. Because there are things like the golden ratio.